Curse

Juno Onuj · Mar 13, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

Why must people who have gotten FoW be discriminated against? FoW is supposed to be a symbol of status, but to most people, what it really is a symbol of cheating...

Symbol of status? No no no, symbol of how much time you've put into the game or how much free-time you have, but not status. But congrats on earning it.

Battle Torn · Mar 13, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

People in PvP suck mostly. Sorry to offend anyone but if your offended its because your one of em...otherwise just ignore my comment if your one of the ok people

. Unfortunately you cant stop others jealousy of your FoW. I think these sad individuals need something to make them feel special and they do that by ridiculing others..hehe morons. Just think of anyone flaming you as clear sign they are nOObs (theyre doing you a favor in a way..."here Im a nOOb..dont like your armour' hehe) no experienced player would flame you because of your FoW. I would love a full group all in FoW to go in RA... that would be cool to see the reaction

btw I earned my armour legit and my guild was behind me as I progressed and I farmed griffons for months (before the nerf). After a few FoW chest runs I found perfect fellblades and chaos axe and now...I find myself struggling to play the game. I need something to keep me playing and FoW was a good reason for me. I suppose I could try to break the 4mil exp this week or try to do more PvP if I can stomach the negativity of others because of my stuff. Also people (in PvP) generally have the opinion your a nOOb if you only play PvE as they generally start out that way and progress to PvP. I have to say I have never met a bigger bunch of nOObs in my life than in PvP and dont get me wrong I dont mind explaining skills and attributes with new players.... I like helping others.....the nOObs Im talking about are the arrogant tossers who are rude and wont listen and assume they are correct (especially when they are wrong) and seem to think they arent playing the game unless they are putting others down.

Again...just an observation..dont flame me for pointing out the obvious... no decent PvP'er should feel the need to flame this post... as I said you know who you are and its the other tossers Im talking about.

Charqus · Mar 13, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

I'd call em noobs back and take the mick outta their crappy armour

Leddy · Mar 13, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

I couldn't afford FoW, so I bought several sets of 15k.

General Surena · Mar 13, 2006, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Random Arena is where the trash meets. I can only speak for American and German districts. The level of utter crap and nonsense is beyond belief. Yet, you shouldn't regard this as a curse. People are jealous and people are elitists.
Just 2 days ago some ranger calls my Deer-Emote an Iway-Deer while I reply him that he must have earned his wolf by Iway-trapping then maybe. No arguments from his side whatsoever, just the standard excuses. Gee Gee. I still don't get the point of feeling elite in virtual games.

Pete1975 · Mar 13, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

Do you really care what some 12 year old thinks of you? Getting fow armor is not a ticket to instant respect, try going in HA with it on, it's like a beacon saying KILL ME to the iway W/R's

The simple fact is they are jealous, there are 2 ways of dealing with it, ignore them or shout back and be just like them, the choice is yours..

You earned your armor congrats to you and anyone else that has earned theirs.

neighto · Mar 13, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

Now the problem is, in RA, like everybody starts yelling
"EBAY NOOB ALERT" or "U NOOB EBAYER" when they see my FoW armor.

my thoughts on this.

1. you are in RA. that place is full with people who ONLY pvp. what they all have the generic armor cause they are too lazy to actually play the pve aspect of the game and get some better looking armor. You dont know how much gold i have made selling runes to them all for pvp unlocking purposes! lol

2. Who really cares what they think. IMO they are more concerned with rank/rank farming then anything anyway. "OH YEA IM R(fill in the number here). look at me im cool" Its just the same as someone who is wearing fow armor in the pve aspect of the game. Too bad they have to stare at crappy armor just to get a dumb emote that no one really cares about (except pvpers for some reason) To each their own

3. most people who are quick to call someone an NOOB EBAYER, is prolly one of them in hiding. I have partial fow armor on my war. Took me 2 weeks of solid farming to get the funds to buy 3 pieces. As many have said.. the feeling of accomplishment you get after slapping that armor on after that amount of work CANNOT BE BEAT!. If some 12yo wants to call me a noob for my hard work out of jealousy, then so be it. Ill just continue having fun playing the game. 9/10 times i get more compliments and questions on my armor, then just the lame-os calling me a noob for wearing my hard earned armor

so all in all.. if you worked your ass off to get your FOW armor then all the power to you mate! CONGRATZ! I only say that cause i know the amount of work that goes into getting it!

fiery · Mar 13, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50

I would be happy with just the Fow armor for my ranger than a whole set for her

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striderkaaru · Mar 13, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

You know, some people actually get FoW armor legitimitely. All you need is a few lucky drops
i.e:
15^50 Req.9 Fellblade

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

Why must people who have gotten FoW be discriminated against? FoW is supposed to be a symbol of status, but to most people, what it really is a symbol of cheating...

just wanted to quickly point out a flaw in your logic, and possibly one of the reasons why you are disliked for your armor.

like you said, all you need is a few lucky drops. yet at the same time, you seem to feel like the armor should be a status symbol. symbol for what? for you being extremely lucky? or for you farming a lot?

don't get me wrong here. i know tons of people who have fow armor legitimately. but if you think that wearing it somehow puts you above everyone else, i would suggest doing a reality check. people will discriminate because of that high and mighty attitude.

Battle Torn · Mar 13, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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don't get me wrong here. i know tons of people who have fow armor legitimately. but if you think that wearing it somehow puts you above everyone else, i would suggest doing a reality check. people will discriminate because of that high and mighty attitude.

Truth is that is symbolizes the people who have had more time in game than most and therefore most experienced. I cant talk for the so called e-bayers that people allways throw in the discussion even though they couldnt possibly know rather than assume.

I always look at FoW as a status symbol for experience until otherwise proven wrong as do most others.

A little riddle.... There are 2 computer game characters, exactly the same in every way except one has rarer FoW armour... which is the best?...forget player input I merely mean in game character. Also by armour I would assume sup runes and perfect weapons with it. So it is possible to have a better character because he has better stuff. Still that wont help you if someone your playing against is just simply better than you so there is character and player skill...different things. I never assume Im better than others because I have FoW because its the person behind the character that makes him better or worse and you dont need FoW set for that. My point is that people aside in the equasion...your online character is better with better stuff.

Indeed people often expect you to wow them when your playing in FoW armour because they expect you to be sooo good.... its a little bit unfair sometimes too.

boxterduke · Mar 13, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Lots of PvP croud do not play PvE and are envious of for armor thats why you see threads here and there wanting fow armor for the PvP creation screen or even 15k

I would say a large percentage for FoW armor wearing players are ebay since sometimes you would notice them having no skill of play.

Lots of people make fun of fow or 15k when you do not play good in PvP. Well I think thats stupid since you might be good in PvE and have done everything in there and started to play PvP. If they have minds to think then they would know that PvP is completely different than PvE and it might take people sometime to get used to it.

To avoid all the stupidity that goes in PvP when I play with my mesmer (she has FoW) I just switch to my regular enchanters to avoid friction with stupid people. I'm a PvEer and do not really like PvP but play it sometimes.

Banebow · Mar 13, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Battle Torn

I always look at FoW as a status symbol for experience until otherwise proven wrong as do most others.

A player just starting out can have the armor inside a month with one crystalline sword drop.

Like 15k armor, it means nothing. People should be buying it because they like the way it looks, not because they think they will be considered experienced while they have it.

Kakumei · Mar 13, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by navymrgoodbar

Then what you do is you capture a black widow spider as well. Take a pic of both of them together. That's what I did so it really makes ppl see you have some skill (I hope).

Yeah man having vanity armor and pets shows everyone that you have skill and that you are awesome and everyone should invite you to their party because you are a PRO FARMER and are therefore GOOD AT THE GAME.

Battle Torn · Mar 13, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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A player just starting out can have the armor inside a month with one crystalline sword drop.

Come on now, do you expect me to beleive most people with FoW are nOObs?

No its possible some are but the majority are experienced, how can you possible know otherwise other than to speculate a possible drop?

Fact is most people earn it through months of play and they should be seen that way rgardless of the 1 or 2 lucky ones FACT!

Fact most people with FoW are more experienced FACT

Personaly I feel its a burden that others assume you are awesome when sometimes you just want to veg out and go with the flow rather than lead or feel you have to.

So in general FoW armour shows your maturity as a guild wars gamer regardless of a few lucky people.

striderkaaru · Mar 13, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

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Originally Posted by Battle Torn

I always look at FoW as a status symbol for experience until otherwise proven wrong as do most others.

this is exactly the high and mighty attitude i mentioned.

it's been mentioned numerous times before, but a few lucky drops can mean instant fow armor. someone who has been playing for a month can get it if extremely lucky, while someone playing for 6 months and has never gotten any good drops won't.

or put it this way (in case some have missed kakumei's sarcasm): someone makes a monk for the sole purpose of doing solo 55hp farming, grinds the hours to get that coveted armor, and finally gets the armor. does this mean that he will automatically make a good heal or prot monk? not necessarily. not if all he has done is done solo farm.

i don't judge either way. someone in fow armor will get the same treatment from me as someone in drok's armor. yes, it CAN mean that they have more experience, but it also MAY NOT. in cases like that, it's better to be indifferent.

if you went for fow armor because it gave you a goal to strive for in the game, then power to you. if you got it because you think it looks good, then even more power to you. but if you got it because you expect people to treat you better, then uhh... no.

like they say, don't judge a book by its cover.

Count to Potato · Mar 13, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

You know poeple who sell money on ebay for real money... are being banned from guildwars, so no more ebaying basically

Battle Torn · Mar 13, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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it's been mentioned numerous times before, but a few lucky drops can mean instant fow armor. someone who has been playing for a month can get it if extremely lucky, while someone playing for 6 months and has never gotten any good drops won't.

it has also been mentioned before that most people earn their armour. Maybe you should remember this.

Sure dont judge anyone by their looks but if you know most cases people in FoW are experienced then of course. The nOObs will soon show through.

Perhaps your talking about people expecting respect... I mean personal opinion when i judge someone in game and thats up to me.

I find your attitude alot more high and mighty. All I mentioned is a fact that FoW usualy means experience therefore its a good bet they are...end of

striderkaaru · Mar 13, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Battle Torn

it has also been mentioned before that most people earn their armour. Maybe you should remember this.

i do. and if you read my posts, you might see that i have nothing against people in fow armor, having mentioned that i know skilled people who wear them. yes, people can earn them or get lucky. either or. fow armor indicates nothing.

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Originally Posted by Battle Torn

All I mentioned is a fact that FoW usualy means experience therefore its a good bet they are...end of

let's take a look at 2 monks, both created around the same time and played for the same amount. 1 monk was created for the sole purpose of farming. he got ran through the ascension missions, bought the necessary skills, then started solo farming. that monk now wears fow armor. the other monk played through the game and spends the majority of his time monking for guildies or pugs in high level areas (fire island, fow, uw, sf). he's seen some tough situations and even solo monked fow a number of times due to disconnects. this monk still wears drok armor.

in terms of team based experience, if you chose based on the fow armor, you just lost your bet.

as an indication of experience, that fow armor served no purpose. the monk in fow armor may be skilled or he may not. there really is no way to tell, and judging based on that is like flipping a coin.

and before anyone says anything again, i will assert that I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PEOPLE WEARING FOW ARMOR. hell, you don't even know if i wear fow. yes, they may be more experienced and skilled, and they may not. i was just explaining the issue addressed by the OP as to why most fow armor wearers get discriminated against. it is because some will expect it to be a status symbol, when it is, in fact, not.

VampiricuS · Mar 13, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

so any advice on my previous post in regards to the ectos?

Diablo™ · Mar 13, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

People who call you a noob-ebayer because of your FoW armor are the same people who couldn't fit in at the Grotos.